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sudbina 28.08.2017 21:13

XG Works problem
 
Pozz svima
Evo ukratko da vas upoznam sa mojim problemom.
Od prije par mjeseci od kako sam uzeo Tyros 3 sa ovim softwerom imam problem.Naime nakon instalacije usb midi drajvera 64 bitne verzije,sa ostalim softwerima kao npr Cubase 7.4,tyros editor 3,multi pad editor,style editor omogucena je komunikacija preko Digital workstation 1.Instalirao sam verzije Mix Master i XG Works 3.07 i kada hocu da podesim midi in i midi out i da ih preusmjerim na DW 1 onda mi to nije omoguceno.Pojavi se poruka: failed open midi out driver system setup i na kraju the same driver is assigned to several port.Kad udjem u Mix Master i hocu da preusmjerim na rad u seqvenceru.optimize XG i da udjem u XG Works onda mi zaledi i zatvori program Mix Master.Kao tvoj port od DW 1 je zauzet i dodijeljen nekom drugom usb uredjaju.Probao sam sa mijenjanjem mijesta usb ali nista.Da napomenem da imam u studiju dosta uredjaja i kartica koji idu preko USB.
Molim ako ima neko konkstruktivan prijedlog i da pokusam rijesiti ovaj problem.Hvala unaprijed;)

casper 28.08.2017 21:43

2 Privitaka
Očito da je još neki software koristi port od Yamahe.
Prvo provjei da li si driveri pravilno instalirani. Spoji Tyros3 na komp i upali ga. Onda pogledaj da li stvarno koristi Yamahine drivere ili su se nametnuli ovi od windowsa. Žuto markirano je ono što te zanima.
Ako je to ispravno, dalje treba provjieti da istovremeno nije pokrenut Cubase ili neki drugi soft. Restartaj komp, upali tyros, pokreni XG works i biraj u Setup > System Setup, pa provjeri da li možeš birati DIgital Workstation.

sudbina 28.08.2017 21:53

XG Works problem
 
Hvala Casper.
I ja najvise sumnjam na to zauzeće portova.
Kad ulazim u xg works startam ga samog , ne zajedno sa Cubase ili nekim drugim softwerom.
Na usb su mi prikljuceni sljedeci uredjaji na compu:
Steinberg UR 824 zvucna karta
usb e licencer od Cubase
midi sport 2x4
mouse
Mini Wireless Network Card za internet
i Tyros 3.
Ostali uredjaji i karte su prikljuceni preko firewire porta.
Na xg worksu mi ne dozvoljava da upisem DW 1 ni kao midi in ni ako midi out?

casper 28.08.2017 22:01

A driveri? Provjeri to.

sudbina 29.08.2017 15:34

XG Works problem
 
Izgleda da je drajver od T3 ok.Casper,provjerio sam ove tvoje slike i isto tako pise i kod mene.Isključio sam sve uredjaje na usb portovima,sve osim miša. Instalirao ponovo yamaha usb driver 3141.Udjem u XG Works i opet sve isto.Odmah pri ulasku u sotwer piše: Failet to open Midi out driver.
Dalje kad udjem u system setup i zelim da odaberem midi in i out , odnosno da preusmjerim na DW 1,ne da mi i piše:The same driveris asissgnedto serveral ports.Isto tako i kad udjem u mix master i zelim da preko njega udjem u seqvencer xg works-optimize xg,zaledi mix master i moram izaci iz njega.
Da napomenem da sam sve usb portove osim mouse iskljucio.Ne znam u cemu je kvaka????

casper 29.08.2017 16:17

Teško mi je ovako na daljinu prepoznati problem. Obavijest o zauzeću porta može između ostalog biti upravo zbog pogrešno instaliranih drivera. Kažeš da bi trebali biti OK?
Pokušaj spojiti HD Tyrosa s kompom. Jel to funkcionira?
Da li možeš u MixMasteru postaviti DW pod Setup MIDI?
Provjeri firmewire Tyrosa i ako nije 1.20 nadogradi ga.
Promjeni USB kabl, za svaki slučaj.
USB kabl treba biti uštekan u stražnji dio kompa, ne u USB hub.
Koristi USB 2.0 priključak, za svaki slučaj.
Da nije stavljen MIDI kabl za terce?
.....

Ne znam, trebaš vidjeti da li je u Startup-u sistema možda postavljeno da automatski diže Cubase ... svašta mi pada na pamet ali ovako na daljinu je stvarno teško napraviti dijagnostiku.

sudbina 29.08.2017 18:11

xg works problem
 
E, ovako redom....
Sad sam provjerio na T3 versija je 1.01.
Usb cabl je istestiran i ok je.
Kad spojim T3 sa softwerima tipa Tyros 3 editor,Style Tempo editor, OTS,
Pad Maker Midi, sve radi.Takodje imam i komunikaciju u samom Cubase 7.5 gdje ga kao takvog nekad koristim kao midi kalvijaturu za neke sitne intervencije, uglavnom za drum loop.
USB kablo je ustekano sa zadnje strane ne naprijed i mijenjao sam mjesta.
Nemam MIDI kabla ustekanog u T3, jer kao midi klavijaturu uglavnom koristim Triton Extreme.
U Mix Masteru vidi postavku Tyros 3 i Digital Workstation.
Da li kod nadogradnje firmware na 1.20 na novi sistem, mogu pobrkati dosadasnji stimung klavijature u globalu kao i custom voice, drum, user , style ili????
Mozda smeta to sto mi ej zvucna karta takodje yamaha steinberg ur 824 pa se ne vole ili ga ne voli Cubase ,hehehe.
U svakom slucaju puno ti hvala Casper na ovim korisnim i konstruktivnim savjetima.Probat cu jos malo čačkati i onda odustajem i instalirat cu ga na latop....
Veliki pozdrav

casper 29.08.2017 23:21

Nemoj odustati jer mora proraditi ovako. Zvučna kartica ne bi smjela smetati.

Prvo i obavezno napravi nadogradnju firmwirea jer je ova postojeća od kada je i klavijatura. Mislim, gotovo sam siguran da će to i riješiti problem. Nadogradnja ne bi smjela promjeniti ništa od postavki u klavijaturi ali za svaki slučaj trebaš napraviti backup sistema. On ti ionako treba bez obzira na ovu nadogradnju.
FUNCTION > UTILITY > OWNER > BACKUP

To što vidiš naziv Digital Workstation nije dovoljno. Kada je sve ispravno i uredno instalirano moraš imati opcije Digital Workstation 1 i Digital Workstation 2.
Odradi firmwire da vidimo što dalje.

sudbina 30.08.2017 10:39

xg works problem
 
Uradio sve kako si i rekao i update na 1.20.
Da, u Mix Masteru i XG Worksu vidi DW 1 i DW 2.
Sve isto, i opet isti problem.Negdje je izgleda problem u compu i ASUS ploči, mozda i u BIOS-u.Ne znam?




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sudbina 30.08.2017 10:40

xg works problem
 
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Postupak

How to upgrade Tyros3 firmware ?
1.SKINUTI SA INTERNETA NAJNOVIJU VERZIJU FIRMWIRE ZA TYROS 3 ( 1.20 )
2.SNIMITI TO NA USB, ALI ODPAKOVATI SVE IZ FOLDERA
3.ISTOVREMENO DRZATI TIPKU START – STOP, NON STOP DOK TRAJE INSTALACIJA I UKLJUČITI KLAVIJATURU
4.SYSTEM BOOTER SAM INSTALIRA I TO TRAJE NEKIH 2-3 MIN.
5.NAKON INSTALACIJE PONOVO ISKLJUČITI I UKLJUČITI KLAVIJATURU
6.NA KRAJU PROVJERITE – UTILITY – OWNER - VERSION ( 1.20 )
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