Gem ili Yamaha

[kolc]

Pozdrav kolege-interesuje me vase misljenje u vezi ove dve klavvijature-gem wk 8 se ili yamaha psr 8000?Znam da obe imaju hard,sempler i vokal harmonajzer,ali me interesuju vasa iskustva kako zvuce u zuvoj svirci i kakve su za fajlove?Unapred zahvalan.

[Minicevac]

Moj drug ima Gem wk 8 se,klavijatira je mnogo,mnogo mocna i kvalitetna!Radi opasno i bez semplera pa ti sad vidi...

[kolc]

Hvala kolega Minicevac,ako drug resi da proda tog gema neka mi se javi na tel*************.Pozz


Bez brojeva telefona na Forumu...za razmenu kontakata imate privatne poruke a za kupovinu ili prodaju oglase!!!

[makso68]

Koliko ja znam da ni jedna ni druga nemaju sempler,ali su moćne obje.Sad,sound je stvar ukusa,poslušaj,uporedi i koja ti se više sviđa,kupuj.Pozdrav!

[kuki]

Yamaha PSR-8000 ima sempler!
Sto se tice zive svirke PSR-8000 lepo zvuci(zavisi koliko ga sredis).
Fajlovi odlicno zvuce bez ikakvog editovanja,sto je tako kod vecine yamaha.

Sto se tice Gem-a ne mogu ti nista reci,nisam ga nikad probao ni cuo.

[jeftabgd]

Ne bih da unosim zabunu i otvaram nepotrebne rasprave ali meni Gem zvuci amaterski i nekako mi je to prevazidjena sprava.Slusao sam par kolega sa Gem-om i to mi je nekako bi neki telefon sound.Mislim da nije sprava za visoke profesionalne domete.

[kreso]

@ Jeftabg

Prijatelju, neču da ti popujem al varaš se.
U svijetu aranžera GEM je sam vrh.
GEM Genesys PRO je strašan stroj, a i stara WK serija je jako dobra.
Otiđi na službene stranice Generalmusica pa češ vidjeti što rade.
Nisu oni od jučer. Samo što nisu toliko popularni kod nas jer su ritmički više orjentirani zapadnom tržištu. A imaju i jedan orjentalan model koji se perfektno čuje. I k tome nisu baš jeftini.
Zakačit ću naknadno par slika i specifikacija, pa usporedi malo s PSR-8000, vidjet češ da su oni oho-ho otišli naspram konkurencije, samo kako sam reko, nisu kod nas popularne, nema materijal i zato ih ljudi izbjegavaju i kude.
Dodato:
Ispričavam se zbog romana, no ne stane mi sve u jedan post.

Generation

The rational controls layout and the large graphic display (320 x 240 pixels) inserted in an

ergonomic panel with simulated briar finish offer a direct approach to the enormous power contained in the

WK8 SE. The WK8 SE is a 32 part multitimbral instrument with 32 layers, 32 splits, 32 dynamic switches and a

64-note polyphony. The WK8 SE contains 24 MB ROM of PCM samples, including 1,016 presets plus 16 new

piano sounds with 'Damper Physical Model' from the Realpiano PRO2 library. Navigation within this vast sound

library is made easy by an operating system that can 'remember' your most frequently used sounds and styles

(Last Selection Memory). The next time you need these sounds, thay are only one button press away - with no

programming required. In addition, the WK8 SE is fitted with a 8 MB battery backed D-RAM that lets you load

and edit stereo samples, improving the dynamics of the sounds. The sample RAM can be further expanded,

installing up to 32 MB of SIMM modules. The WK8 SE can load PCM samples in a wide range of formats

including Wave (PC), AIFF (Mac), Sound Designer1 Akai®, Kurzweil®, Sample Vision and Standard Midi

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Sampling Sample Data Dump. The powerful Edit Sound lets you manipulate the sounds with advanced editing functions,

using 2nd and 4th order filters (12/24 dB/oct) with resonance control. You can use up to 6 oscillators per voice

on three layers, in combination with the Wave Vector, that lets you play back the internal or imported samples

in forward, reverse and alternate mode. You can even use 6 segment envelopes to program time variant volume,

pan and filter cutoff curves. The LFO also features a 'sync to MIDI' function. All editing functions are displayed

on the large graphic display. The WK8 SE offers 64 new Realtime Performances, specially programmed to

use the huge internal sound and effects libraries to their fullest. The Drawbar Performances let you play, while

controlling in real time, the classic tonewheel organ sound using the 8 sliders on the front panel.

The ROM of the WK8 SE contains a number of waveforms sampled directly from a vintage Hammond® B3

which, combined with our authentic leslie® speaker simulation, offer a faithful reproduction of the sound of this

timeless instrument.

Effects processors

The WK8 SE features 4 programmable digital effects processors divided into 2 groups.

Two effects can be assigned to each track, with a choice of 24 reverbs and 32 modulation effects for each group.

Reverb algorhythms include Hall, Concert, Chamber, Room, Vocal, Plate, Church, Mountains, Falling and Early.

Modulation effects include Delay, Dubbing, Ping-Pong, Chorus, Ensemble, Phaser, Flanger, Pan mix, Distortion,

Pitch shifter, Rotary and Equalizer.

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Styles

The arranger section of the WK8 SE contains 192 ROM styles with 4 variation each and 32 RAM styles,

user-programmable or updatable from floppy disks. Each style is made up of 8 tracks (Drums, Bass, Acc. 1/2/3/4/5/6).

The important 'Style Performance' function has been further developed: each style features now 8 Style Performances,

that let you instantly reconfigure its orchestration. Moreover, the WK8 SE offers 16 new 'RASS' styles, loaded in

the flash memory of the instrument. GEM's new 'RASS' (Real Audio Synchro Style) disk library developed for the new

WK Series instruments, allows you to use specially processed real audio samples which are synchronized with the

MIDI styles, creating the most authentic rhythm tracks ever. As you change tempo, the RASS sample actually follows

your changes exactly as though it was another MIDI track - changing tempo appropriately.

Sequencer

The WK8 SE contains a professional sequencer with 32 tracks, a capacity of 250,000 events/16 songs, 1/192 resolution,

microscopic editing, groove quantize and background loading. The WK8 SE's new operating system adds a series of

interesting functions: Autostore (automatic saving of modifications performed in 'Rec mode'); 'Direct from disk'

function that speeds up the playback of Midifiles stored on floppy disks and on the hard disk; balance between melody

volume and accompaniment volume. The WK8 SE is compatible with a range of formats: DOC®, Disklavier,

Piano Disk, TUNE1000® and '.KAR'. The WK8 SE is also compatible with Standard Midi Files (0, 1 and 1+lyrics), and

with thousands of GEM's SK/WK, SX/WX and GMX series songs.

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Hard disk

The WK8 SE can use an internal hard disk of up to 2 GB in capacity (2.5" - IDE interface), ideal for quickly and

securely saving and recalling vast amounts of data. The WK8 SE comes complete with a pre-loaded hard disk

containing an enormous variety of software: over 200 songs in TUNE1000® format with lyrics that can be displayed,

over 300 styles and 60 MB of PCM samples.

Built-in SCSI interface

Thanks to the built-in SCSI interface - compatible with Zip 250® and Jaz (1 and 2 GB)

Master keyboard

The WK8 SE is a powerful master controller keyboard complete with aftertouch.

A comprehensive series of connectors (2 MIDI In, 2 Out, 2 Thru and 3 programmable pedals)

allows powerful real time control over any type of external unit with access to 32 independent MIDI channels.

Audio/video interface with vocal processor

Eto, iz ovog možete i sami vidjeti i uvjeriri se da jedan GEM ne da je bolji od razvikane konkurencije iz "velike trojke" nego jede i malu djecu.

Evo i sličice